|
Post by Michael West on Feb 25, 2007 11:18:17 GMT -5
Okay, mark the time, because here are my picks for the winners in some of the bigger categories: Best Picture:Little Miss SunshineThere is a big buzz in Hollywood right now for this film. Everybody loves it. We'll see if everybody votes for it. If Sunshine doesn't take it, look for Babel or The Departed to walk off with the gold. Best Director:Martin (It's about freakin' time Academy!) Scorsese He's due. He's been due for decades. Give him the statue already! Best Actor:Forest Whitaker Best Actress:Helen Mirren Best Supporting Actor:Eddie Murphy Best Supporting Actress:Jennifer Hudson Best Foreign Language Film:Pan's LabyrinthPan should have been up for more awards (Like...all of them!), but it will walk home with this one. There was simply no better film in 2006. Now, nothing left to do but sit back and see what happens. There is always at least one surprise. Just hope there is no duet with Rob Lowe and Snow White!
|
|
|
Post by obliv326 on Feb 25, 2007 18:13:42 GMT -5
hey mike
well, i dint think 'sunshine'will win, even thought i do love it as a film. the feeling i get, living out here, is that 'sunshine's nomination is recognition enough...i really do think, contrary to what people say, it is an honor to be nominated...
i have a feeling this will be scorcese's night. his best director win should be a shoo in...as easy a call as any i have seen...like jamie foxx a couple years ago...
if scorcese doesnt win here, he may never win. the departed was so much better than the other nominees in terms of direction, its hard to say why i wouldnt win...
i agree w/all your other predictions. i think the acting categories are sewed up, and i agree w/them, except hudson. i didt see dreamgiels, but i just dont see how a singing performance can possibly win. by defn, it is unrealistic and stylized...but people keep saying she's a shoo in, so i wont bet against her
i think departed gets the best adapted screenplay nominations. sunshine gets best originaly screenplay...
children of men should win some type of cinematography award...there are two scenes in there thbat, as pieces of filmmaking are utter brilliance!
anyway, 90 min and counting!
|
|
|
Post by Timid Wily Lava Child on Feb 25, 2007 19:05:59 GMT -5
well, i dint think 'sunshine'will win, ... i have a feeling this will be scorcese's night. . . . the departed was so much better than the other nominees in terms of direction, its hard to say why i wouldnt win... I'm with Stace. Now I haven't seen Sunshine, but Stace's analysis rings true. As to Babel and Departed, the latter's benefit is the former's danger - people are actually seeing these movies. The more people see The Departed, the more they realize how good it is. With Babel, it's the opposite. They nominated it because it looks like the right kind of film, and now that they've seen it, they're realizing that it doesn't quite have anything to say, or perhaps doesn't even get it said. The rest of your picks are pretty much *the* picks. In fact, at this point in Vegas people aren't even taking bets on Mirren - it's just a given. And I have to say, I really wish I'd liked Pan's Labyrinth. You're right about it though.
|
|
|
Post by Timid Wily Lava Child on Feb 26, 2007 0:17:36 GMT -5
Yes!
|
|
|
Post by Michael West on Feb 26, 2007 9:07:22 GMT -5
I was saying the same thing much of the night. When Labyrinth started building early momentum, I was quite happy. When Murphy lost to Arkin, I said, "Well, there's the surprise," and I was convinced the rest of the evening would be uneventful. Then, when Pan lost for Foreign Film, I actually had to leave the room, put some things away...I was livid. But then Lucas, Speilberg, and Coppola came out to hand Scorsese his long overdue gold, and I was a happy camper again. And to have The Departed win Best Picture...Wow! ;D So yeah, Pan's loss marred an otherwise wonderful evening.
|
|
|
Post by Michael West on Feb 26, 2007 9:32:13 GMT -5
Official winners list from the Associated Press: List of winners at the 79th annual Academy Awards, presented Sunday, Feb. 25 at the Kodak Theatre in Los Angeles: Picture: The Departed ;D Director: Martin Scorsese, The Departed ;D ;D ;D Actor: Forest Whitaker, The Last King of ScotlandActress: Helen Mirren, The QueenFilm Editing: The Departed ;D Original Song: "I Need to Wake Up" from An Inconvenient Truth, Melissa Etheridge Original Screenplay: Michael Arndt, Little Miss Sunshine ;D ( Pan could've won here too, but I was happy for Sunshine.) Original Score: Babel, Gustavo Santaolalla Documentary Feature: An Inconvenient TruthSupporting Actress: Jennifer Hudson, DreamgirlsForeign-Language Film: The Lives of Others, Germany Visual Effects: Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest Cinematography: Pan's Labyrinth ;D Costume Design: Marie Antoinette Adapted Screenplay: William Monahan, The Departed ;D Animated Feature Film: Happy Feet (Killer Penguin was most happy. ;D But...what was up with George Miller's tux?!?!) Documentary Short Subject: The Blood of Yingzhou DistrictSupporting Actor: Alan Arkin, Little Miss SunshineArt Direction: Pan's Labyrinth ;D Sound Mixing: DreamgirlsSound Editing: Letters From Iwo JimaMakeup: Pan's Labyrinth ;D Animated Short Film: The Danish PoetLive Action Short Film: West Bank Story ;D ——— Jean Hersholt Award (Oscar statuette): Sherry Lansing. Honorary Academy Award (Oscar statuette): Ennio Morricone.
|
|
|
Post by Timid Wily Lava Child on Feb 27, 2007 3:45:02 GMT -5
when Pan lost for Foreign Film, I actually had to leave the room, put some things away...I was livid. In 1995 I saw The Usual Suspects, and assumed it would be the best film I saw that year. A week later I saw Seven (sorry, I'm not a marketing wonk - it's a V). Seven was the best film of that year, but in no way was Usual lessened by that. It just made 1995 that much better of a year. Word on the street is that The Lives of Others is amazing. I know you liked Pan's, and i didn't (though I recognize its quality), but it's possible that the winner really is just that good. Also, in order to vote in this category, the voter must see all 5 movies. It was probably a legitimate win. My guess is that you may have something to look forward to.
|
|
|
Post by Michael West on Feb 27, 2007 9:51:06 GMT -5
Word on the street is that The Lives of Others is amazing. I know you liked Pan's, and i didn't (though I recognize its quality), but it's possible that the winner really is just that good. Also, in order to vote in this category, the voter must see all 5 movies. It was probably a legitimate win. My guess is that you may have something to look forward to. You are probably right. Still, I was disappointed. I really wanted to see Guillermo del Toro up there with the little golden guy in his hands. I just think the man is an amazing director. Of course, I said the same thing about James Cameron and Steven Speilberg, and they ended up winning eventually. I will just have to be patient.
|
|
|
Post by Timid Wily Lava Child on Mar 1, 2007 1:00:43 GMT -5
Of course, I said the same thing about James Cameron and Steven Speilberg, and they ended up winning eventually. I will just have to be patient. I think so. This is keeping in mind our difference on Pan's - I happened to not like it very much. Separate from that, I happen to think it's a good movie, but not really a great one. From my perspective, having seen only this and Blade 2, but knowing about Kronos, Devil's Backbone and Hellboy, I think he has a few better films in him, probably even a great one or two. (Ironically, I think that I have not seen the three movies of his that I think am most likely to like) And don't get me started on Cameron right now. What a big, dumb goof.
|
|
|
Post by obliv326 on Mar 1, 2007 1:23:52 GMT -5
And don't get me started on Cameron right now. What a big, dumb goof. please, lets not even start on that stuff. anyone who happens to not agree w/you, that he is not a 'big, dumb goof' is now entitled to have a go at you. it's not fun. it's not interesting. it's not the place for it. i really don't want to have to read about it. i know mike doesn't want it in his forum...so, can we just not even start on that...please?
|
|
|
Post by obliv326 on Mar 1, 2007 22:31:34 GMT -5
In 1995 I saw The Usual Suspects, and assumed it would be the best film I saw that year. A week later I saw Seven (sorry, I'm not a marketing wonk - it's a V). Seven was the best film of that year, but in no way was Usual lessened by that. It just made 1995 that much better of a year. you know, when the movie was out, it was not referred to as 'se7en'. look a the poster, for heavens sake! when did it become se7en? was it on dvd? i dont know... and you know, re: your comments, just b/c something wons/doesnt won, does not mean it is the final word on whether that film is the best of that or any other year...citizen kane...did it win best picture? take a look at the imdb ratings for pan's lab...i will bet they will stay high...history has the final word...and for the record, forest gump was not even the 10th best film of 1994...
|
|
|
Post by Timid Wily Lava Child on Mar 2, 2007 0:21:18 GMT -5
anyone who happens to not agree w/you, that he is not a 'big, dumb goof' I was making light of it. If I really wanted to have a go at Cameron, and I could, I would say something serious. It's not necessary in this case - everyone just seems to already know better anyway. I can't find a news report that isn't taking a few light shots at this documentary, while otherwise covering it straight. And he deserves both. The quality of his research on Titanic merits him some due credit, while there's some apparent historical ignorance at play in this one - all of that said given that the doc hasn't even aired yet. I like him very much, but he is a goofball (one needn't negate the other). For many people (me only a little) he displayed that when accepting his Oscar. It was a nice sentiment, but it had all the subtlety of Potsie Webber. you know, when the movie was out, it was not referred to as 'se7en'. look a the poster, for heavens sake! when did it become se7en? was it on dvd? i dont know... I don't either, but I rarely see it referred to, in type, I mean by someone just typing, where that isn't done. and you know, re: your comments, just b/c something wons/doesnt won, does not mean it is the final word on whether that film is the best of that or any other year...citizen kane...did it win best picture? take a look at the imdb ratings for pan's lab...i will bet they will stay high...history has the final word...and for the record, forest gump was not even the 10th best film of 1994... Oh, I'm not saying that any Oscar means any such thing. Braveheart, Stace. Braveheart. I think I was trying to say that it's possible that this German film really is that good, and therefore not so much a slight of Pan's, but an exciting film to which to look forward. What a terrible thing it would be to miss out on that out of resentlent. It's a rare category where the voting may, in fact, mean something. Pan's was the easy favorite in this category ...until about a month before the awards show, at which point this one sort of crept up. Sounds to me like people were getting around to seeing it.
|
|
|
Post by obliv326 on Mar 2, 2007 2:05:44 GMT -5
well, can we agree just to stay off the whole cameron documentary thing. i havent seen anything take shots at it, even mild ones, so lets not act like the public opinion has been decided about a documentary that has yet to air...i am a Christian, and there is no documentary that would sway that, so why should it matter...not only that, the point of the doc is not to disprove anything. its just another case of "beatles are bigger than God"...so, please, not here...really. i dont want to have to avoid this site just b/c i dont want to have to read about how james cameron is stupid and an idiot and to pretend that its not b/c of what his documentary MIGHT purport to mean to certain people...so, PLEASE, can we just find things we agree about, or even disagree about, that won't turn into heated battles,
and my comments re:pan were made more to mike, but i agree w/you. i really do hope that the german film is as great as it has been described. my concern, now, is that it has been built up so much that it will be disapointing, kind of like what happened to me w/panlab.
as for seven...yeah...i dont get that. it seems like there are these things that they try to make catch on...independence day was never, for me, ID4. terminatr 2 is NOT T2...,.silly...
|
|
|
Post by Michael West on Mar 2, 2007 14:49:34 GMT -5
and you know, re: your comments, just b/c something wons/doesnt won, does not mean it is the final word on whether that film is the best of that or any other year...citizen kane...did it win best picture? take a look at the imdb ratings for pan's lab...i will bet they will stay high...history has the final word...and for the record, forest gump was not even the 10th best film of 1994... Oh, I'm not saying that any Oscar means any such thing. Braveheart, Stace. Braveheart. I think I was trying to say that it's possible that this German film really is that good, and therefore not so much a slight of Pan's, but an exciting film to which to look forward. What a terrible thing it would be to miss out on that out of resentlent. It's a rare category where the voting may, in fact, mean something. Pan's was the easy favorite in this category ...until about a month before the awards show, at which point this one sort of crept up. Sounds to me like people were getting around to seeing it. If I see that German film on DVD or Starz or something, I would watch it, if for no other reason than to see why people thought it was better. I agree, Dave, that this is one of the few categories, this and the shorts, where the award means you saw all the pictures and think this is best. I don't think half the Academy really sees every movie that is nominated in the major categories. They vote for what they have seen, for people they like, or for people they feel are just due something after all these years. Another bad Oscar example: Ghandi for Best Costume Design over TRON! OVER TRON!!! They wore freakin' sheets!!!!!
|
|