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Post by obliv326 on Mar 6, 2006 13:12:19 GMT -5
crash?
i was happy to see phillip seymour hoffman win. stewart did a great job. ben stiller had me pissing my pants, as did steve carrell and will farrell.
crash?
i think we should start a campaign to remove the best song category, just b/c they cant seem to keep from shoving bad chorography at us...the crash song...or rather, the beginning of a verse that was repeated for 3 minutes passing as a song, and those zombies in the background? what the hell?
i never thought id say it, but i was rooting for dolly parton!
i liked the bowtie thing the wallace and grommit guys did...and of course, the "cracking cheese, grommit!" they dropped on the way out.
crash?
missed the 1st part, so i missed clooney winning. i think he won for the wrong movie, imo. if i had to choose, id say that good night...was the best of the nominated pictures...
so, i propse a poll question, if you will. in honor of last nights, uh, winner, i ask what, in everyone's opinion, is the worst movie to win an oscar, or, if you prefer, to be nominated.
for me, hands down, chicago is teh worst movie to ever win anything. i hated it, every second of its horrible, sequin dripping, overacted, putrid running time. it epiotomizes the worst things about musicals...and to me, there arent many good things.
i am pretty sure i kow what dave's will be. anyone else have an opinion?
i think, as far as nominations go, ghost was a joke.
i dont hate the movie, but i think forrest gump was the worst of all the films nominated that year, and probably wasnt even in the top 10...even 20 that year
i didnt like reds when i saw it, but i should watch it again. that was a while ago, and my mind is a little broader now.
anyone else care to weigh in?
anecdote alert:
i remember mikes first born, merely weeks old, bursting into a shrieking scream when dracula did not win its only nomination...like father, like son...for mike also burst into a shrieking scream at the same moment!
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Post by Michael West on Mar 6, 2006 20:26:38 GMT -5
Without a doubt...the worst Oscar win was in 1982: Ghandi for Best Costume Design. They wore freakin' sheets! And it beat Tron. TRON!!!!!  |
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Post by obliv326 on Mar 8, 2006 6:44:43 GMT -5
anyone else? i know some of us have been incensed, annoyed, or, well, confused by an oscar winnr...i am really curious to see what people think....
dave....i have one word for you...
braveheart
(ducks)
and chariots of fire? pretty much universally considered better and more beloved than raiders of the lost ark, right?
being a horror board, i know most of you were relieved to see 2001 lose to, i believe, gigi? i could be wrong, but i think it was something that outrageous.
im waiting for the day when the razzies an the oscars overlap and a film gets best and worst picture of the year ..and it could happen. if i were in charge of the razzzies, chicago would have easily won (?).
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Post by bitten on Apr 10, 2006 22:57:47 GMT -5
Without a doubt...the worst Oscar win was in 1982: Ghandi for Best Costume Design. They wore freakin' sheets! And it beat Tron. TRON!!!!! LMBO!!! I couldn't help it-- That is soooo funny--- I had totally forgotten that faux pas of the "intellectually superior Hollywood" hahahahahha!!!!!  |
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Post by Timid Wily Lava Child on Apr 11, 2006 4:33:43 GMT -5
"Butt"? (just checking) As Mike used to point out, in that era the costume award was where the bigest Fauxs Pas would occur, citing the nomination of The Swarm in that same category a few years before, which Siskel & Ebert equated with nominating the Sears Catalog. - David |
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Post by Timid Wily Lava Child on Apr 11, 2006 17:47:32 GMT -5
Of the films I saw that were nominated, and that includes Brokeback, Crash was the best, so I was very pleased with the award. Given how bitterly and presumptively some people have reacted, especially the author of the novel herself, I have only become more so, as I stridently shared in a letter which came to be posted on Ebert's site (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060320/LETTERS/60320001). Mind you, as anyone who has spoken to me recently knows, I think it has been a severely lackluster 2 1/2 years for cinema, so much that I have let potential favorites slip by (Sin City, most notably) solely on the lack of convenient timing to see them. I didn't see Capote, but while I expect to like it, I don't expect to place it higher than Crash. Crash only rated 4 out of 5 stars on my scale (nothing has been higher for quite a while), and wasn't even my favorite film of the year. So am I glad Crash won? Sure. Am I passionate about that gladness? Not really. If Good Night had won, a film I respected more, but enjoyed less than Crash (those differences are minimal in level) I might have been more passionate, but still not to a high level. This is the first year's telecast that I made no attempt to even tape, let alone see, since... wow, 1991! It just didn't matter to me. As for Brokeback, I agree quite a bit with my friend Ed (http://www.nuvo.net/archive/2005/12/28/brokeback_mountain.html). Brokeback, like most of Mr. Lee's movies, is polite. I don't mean that it is about politeness, or polite society, but that it is polite in its depictions. That's a drawback for me - it blew The Ice Storm (which I preferred when it was remade as American Beauty). There is a lot to like about Brokeback, but not much to love or care greatly about. For me. (Apparently for others as well.) A few people are assuming that homphobia must naturally have played a part in the big ta-da, if a small one, and they're probably right, but it's just as likely that people voted for the film on social bases, so that's mathematically negligible, as much as we can be sure of any of it anyway. I think it had more to do with two things: Brokeback peaked early (high during the nominations, coming down into resentment areas during voting time), and the academy is made up more of actors than any other group. Crash is a big ensemble piece, with lots of actors, some established and some rising, covering the gamut. Lots of people know and like them, and lots would like to have been in such a film, and to have more such films made. These folks vote. so, i propse a poll question, if you will. in honor of last nights, uh, winner, i ask what, in everyone's opinion, is the worst movie to win an oscar, or, if you prefer, to be nominated...i am pretty sure i kow what dave's will be. anyone else have an opinion? A gentleman ran a request on his weblog asking for the top 10 worst winners of the Best Pic award. It's here (scroll down a bit) www.eddieonfilm.blogspot.com/ It affirms Stace - Crash is #1, and there are lots and lots of musicals. i remember mikes first born, merely weeks old, bursting into a shrieking scream when dracula did not win its only nomination...like father, like son...for mike also burst into a shrieking scream at the same moment! I remember the same kid sensing (in his sleep mind you!) the on-screen presence of Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy in Clooney's worst film (I hope). He dutifully provided our only means of escape from a sold-out house by suddenly vomiting himself awake. Way to take one for the team, G-Fan. |
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Post by Timid Wily Lava Child on Apr 11, 2006 17:48:56 GMT -5
dave....i have one word for you... braveheart (ducks) Oh, Stace... You know I don't blame you for that. How could I? You're a much better writer, and... I've had therapy. |
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Post by obliv326 on Apr 13, 2006 23:11:08 GMT -5
gotta say i disagree w/you. for me crash wasnt the best of the nominees, by a long shot. i really loved good night and goopd luck, enjoyed it, respected it, and was very glad it was nominated. capote same thing. i really enjoyed watching that film. crash, for me, was sort of a, well, simplistic film...one of those "we'll tackle a big issue for the LCD" things that inevitably draws the world in b&w and misses the reality for everyone involved. i sensed it trying to be "confrontational" by outwardly stating steretypes...sort of a "we'll get a rise from the pc crowd" thing, but done in a way as to not offend the pc crowd, because we "all" got the piss taken out, if you know what i mean...
i would say, of all tyhe films nominated, it was far and away the worst, in every way, in terms of both quality and entertainment value. i wasnt particularly enamored of munich, but it had its moments. brokeback worked for me, and i felt it was really powerful, if, as ed says, it was polite. for me capote and good night and good luck were the best pictures of this group, by far, and i would have liked good night to win. crash, to me, seemed like a sympathy nominee...like ghost, sort o a nod to what it had achieved. its winning was a complete shock...
i cant say im pissed, bc i dont hate the film. i am just perplexed that enough people watched these films and thought crash was the best of that group...but then again, stranger things have happened. i think, as that article mentioned, it will always be a curiosity. i think, in the future, it will prob not be quite so reviled...its certainly not the worst best picture winner (chicago, anyone?), but i diont think its a film that will stand the test of time.
i think, if anhthing, maybe there was some arrogance on the part of the brokeback crowd. a sense of entitlement that made people react...i hink maybe the same thing happened last year for aviator as well...sort of a group taking someone down a notch
but at least, they are unpredicatble...unlike, say, the nba playoffs
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Post by bitten on Apr 17, 2006 3:32:31 GMT -5
tis' okay-- you are welcome to check -- actually? it's "bottom" -- (LOL) what can I say? Mother raised a "nice" girl-- WOMAN-- Mother raised a nice woman. I may occasionally flash my chest in cyberspace (especially if you have beads--REALLY good beads) but that's about it. *grin* I talk and speak "nice girl," mixed with a hint of Southern charm-- especially in public. also? if I use a "naughty" or so-called "bad" word? I make it count. *wink* |
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